In the most recent incident of violent crimes allegedly involving Grizzly football players, Andrew Joseph Douglass, 18, of San Clemente, Calif., was charged with felony aggravated assault.
Justin Richard Montelius, who graduated this spring from Missoula's Big Sky High School, and Cody Alexander von Appen, 18, of Kailua, Hawaii, were charged with aiding and abetting an aggravated assault, also a felony.
Last November, three Grizzly football players and a former player were among a group of people who broke into a rental home near campus with the alleged intention of stealing money and drugs. All three were suspended from the football team and were convicted in the home invasion.
“The University of Montana will continue to cooperate in any way possible. It is now in the Missoula County court system and we will continue to monitor it,” said Jim Foley, university vice president.
Grizzly football coach Bobby Hauck did not return a call for comment.
All three freshmen face a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison and a $50,000 fine. They have also been placed on student-athlete probation by the university, Foley said. That means they will continue to act as members of the team, but may be precluded from activities or given restrictions.
The university may implement harsher punishment after an investigation, but Foley would not comment on specifics, citing student privacy. Foley said he was the only university official authorized to comment on the case.
Grizzly linebacker Joshua Stuberg witnessed the incident, but did not participate in the assault and was not charged, according to the affidavit filed Tuesday.
As redshirt players, all four planned to sit out their first season. Redshirt players can practice with the team, but don't play in games.
The victim, Jesse Johnson, 18, was knocked unconscious, suffered several cracked and chipped teeth and a broken jaw, which had to be wired shut, according to the affidavit. He also had contusions on his head and face.
The assault occurred outside Dunaway Hall at about 1:30 a.m. on Sept. 19, according to the affidavit. A surveillance camera captured the assault and was used by police to corroborate witness accounts.
The video showed Montelius talking on his cell phone. Stuberg and von Appen were shown “shadow boxing” and Douglass was removing his shirt “in what appeared to be preparation for a fight,” the affidavit said.
The four approached Johnson and his girlfriend, who were walking back to their dormitory, court documents said. The video showed von Appen punch Johnson in the back of the head, knocking him to the ground.
Douglass then hit and kicked Johnson while he was on the ground, the affidavit said. Defensive back von Appen pushed Johnson, who was trying to rise, to the ground, and the video showed Douglass punch him again. Then the group fled, according to the affidavit.
When interviewed by police, Douglass confirmed his teammates' stories up to the assault. Records said his account differed from the others about the assault itself.
He said that Johnson was acting tough and Montelius was scared of him, according to the affidavit. Douglass said that von Appen punched Johnson to protect Montelius, though he said Johnson never tried to hit any of them or fight back.
In an interview with university police, Johnson said he remembered being surrounded by the group and being punched in the back of the head, records said. The next thing Johnson said he remembered was talking to police.
Greg Johnson, Jesse Johnson's father, said his son planned on leaving campus and moving back in with his parents in Olney, north of Whitefish, citing safety concerns. He said Jesse will try to keep up in his studies and plans to return to college.
The trouble apparently started earlier in the evening when Montelius got into an argument with one of Johnson's friends, also according to the affidavit.
Montelius said he called his three teammates and told them that he had been in a fight and needed their help, records said. After the incident, Montelius admitted to his teammates that he lied about the fight, records said.
Just before the assault, Montelius called Johnson and demanded that he tell him where the friend was, records said. Johnson refused.
In addition to the home invasion nearly a year ago, former UM football player Jimmy Wilson was arrested in 2007 on charges he shot a man in the Los Angeles area and California authorities alleged that former teammate Qwenton Freeman witnessed the incident.
Missoulian reporter Fritz Neighbor contributed to this story.
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John wrote on Oct 1, 2008 1:24 AM:
" I know we as Montanans love the Grizzly Football program as a whole but when is the Athletic Department going to step up and do something. Children in the surrounding communities look up to these players. Incidents like this should be highly frowned upon. I'm sure that there are other players with the same abilities that would love a scholarship to play football that would not make poor decisions like this. We need to send a message to the players on the team that says we have higher standards for our players, and if you break the rules...your done. Enough is enough. "
Danielle wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:45 AM:
" I know the law says "innocent until proven guilty," but with video surveillance and witness corroboration, it's safe to say these guys are thugs. It's despicable for anyone to behave this way, but especially for Griz players, who are vaulted to "local celebrity" status by virtue of being on the team (even the redshirts). Whether they want it or not, they become role models to our kids and enjoy many perks in our community. Perhaps recruiters can't weed out all the "bad apples," but do they even try? I seriously doubt this is the first time these guys have been needlessly violent and destructive. At this point, after last year's mess, is there mandatory "ethics" training for players? (e.g. "Don't break kids' jaws off the field", or how bout, "We frown upon break-ins to steal drugs and money"??) I'd also recommend tours of prisons for all Grizzly players...maybe they'll see some of their former teammates there. I hope the victim, Mr. Johnson, gets the justice he deserves- and then I hope he takes civil action against all the parties responsible. Hopefully, one of those punks has a trust fund. "
Jerry wrote on Oct 1, 2008 8:24 AM:
" They have also been placed on student-athlete probation by the university, Foley said.
Is this "double secret probation" Dean Wormer. "
Is this "double secret probation" Dean Wormer. "
Bill Oriley wrote on Oct 1, 2008 9:05 AM:
" Wow... Really? I knew one of the kids in this article to be a pretty stand up kid in high school. How absolutly stupid can you be to do something dumb like this. Better yet, how can you be so inhuman. Your a big bad griz football player and your first blow is to the back of the kids head?? Real tough tough guys. I hope you get what you deserve. You gave a bad name to our school, football program, and town. Once again thank you very much. I hope you feel stupid "
g wrote on Oct 1, 2008 9:21 AM:
" I believe Pennsylvania is implementing an early release program at their prisons. The Grizzlies could send recruiters to Pennsylvania to fill these slots on their team. It sounds like ex-cons would fit right into the football program and be able to mentor the younger players. "
Ron wrote on Oct 1, 2008 10:03 AM:
" How about the grizzlies football team recruit better men and then turn them into better players like don read did. We never heard of any of this kind of thing when don read was the coach. Please don't turn the grizzly athletic program into a university of Miami. We don't need that kind of person in missoula. "
Sarah Smith wrote on Oct 1, 2008 10:13 AM:
" I hope the University and this town has finally had enough of the antics of the football team. How many years will we have our football team in the news for assault, robbery, and other crimes? "
Willa Rector wrote on Oct 1, 2008 10:20 AM:
" I went to school at Big Sky with Justin Montelius. He's a very smart kid, and was always friendly and polite. He was a star athlete in football, basketball, baseball and track and always gave everything his all. When I heard about this incident I was appaulled, and shocked to think that a kid like Justin could get caught up in something like this.
Yes, what these guys did was VERY wrong, but they are paying for it now...the Montelius family has given so much to this community and to call Justin a "disgrace to Missoula" is not necessary. Justin messed up, they ALL did, and they are probably all going down together. But they don't need your horrible comments...I think they've got enough from their team, coach and families to last them a lifetime. "
Yes, what these guys did was VERY wrong, but they are paying for it now...the Montelius family has given so much to this community and to call Justin a "disgrace to Missoula" is not necessary. Justin messed up, they ALL did, and they are probably all going down together. But they don't need your horrible comments...I think they've got enough from their team, coach and families to last them a lifetime. "
M wrote on Oct 1, 2008 10:39 AM:
" I always knew 'Bad Karma' would eventually catch up to the Montelius family. They have crapped on enough people that it is finally coming back on them.... Ha! "
John wrote on Oct 1, 2008 10:55 AM:
" This coach needs to be replaced immediately. He has no control over his athletic team. You can only ignore the problem so long. When will the university put this football program in its right place. How many of the players incidents are going to be ignored? "
Banner Thomas wrote on Oct 1, 2008 11:02 AM:
" I talked with Andrew earlier in the day before all this went down and he told me about the long history with Johnson. Johnson had often insulted Andrew's girl friend by refering to her as Biscuit Head. He was like, "Dawg I'm tired of hearing about Bisquick and Bizcuits and Gravy..." Later that night Andrew happend to see Johnson again and the first thing out of his mouth was Biscuit and the beat down ensued. The lesson here is keep your mouf shut!!!!! "
Cassie wrote on Oct 1, 2008 11:41 AM:
" I as well have known Justin for a couple of years and needed to see this article for myself to believe it. Does this one incident define Justin as a person? I think not. "
anonymous wrote on Oct 1, 2008 11:44 AM:
" i agree i knew justin and he is not a "thug" at all it sounds like he made a bad decision and is going to have to live with the consequences which sound so bad that i dont think he needs your judgement on top of that "
UM Student wrote on Oct 1, 2008 12:22 PM:
" Is anyone really surprised another incident of this nature was commited by Griz football players...AGAIN? Put them on a pedestal and they will behave as if they are sitting on one. "
Sam wrote on Oct 1, 2008 12:48 PM:
" I know Justin from high school and I have always considered him an extremely decent person. He's been nothing but nice to me since the day we met, and i have yet to encounter someone who has had a different experience with him. I agree that he messed up, and he should have to pay his consequences, but i refuse to think of Justin as a bad person. Prior to this incident, he was an ideal model to our society. I hope Missoula can forgive him and not judge him solely on this one big mistake. "
Bob Arnoux wrote on Oct 1, 2008 12:52 PM:
" This just proves the point that since Bob Hauck took over the Griz the disiplineary control of his players has proven to be ineffective. Pokey Allen, Don Read, Mick Dennehy, Joe Glenn, these guys would never put up with this. Hauck's gotta GO - putting up with this thuggary is really an embarrisment to all of Montana. "
Brendan Brown wrote on Oct 1, 2008 1:33 PM:
" I grew up with Justin Montelius my entire life. I consider him to be one of my closest and best friends. Justin an his family have done nothing but good things to the Missoula Community. I feel Justin has made a big mistake, but who hasn't. As a friend of the Montelius Family, and a Missoulian we need show support for Justin . People make mistakes, its how we overcome them that makes us the people we are. "
Victoria wrote on Oct 1, 2008 1:42 PM:
" This is disgusting behavior from students! They are supposed to be representing our school and state and for the University to only put them on probation is unacceptable. This type of behavior should not be tolerated and they should be kicked off the team. If players continue to behave in this manner with only a slap on the wrist what reason do they have to stop acting like a delinquent. "
Jose Guilman wrote on Oct 1, 2008 2:08 PM:
" Wow to think this is result of name calling...Biscuit...Wow "
Tim wrote on Oct 1, 2008 2:08 PM:
" This type of behavior has gone on in Missoula for decades. Unfortunatly the sucess of the football team over the last 20 years or so has helped them become a greater percentage of the problem, as the punishments they recieve are always a joke. Oh, the Univeristy and the Athletic Department always take these things very seriously but nothing ever gets done about it. When I saw the news reports about the home invasion last fall my first thought was, "put the football team in the photo line-up." I knew I was on the right track, I did not know I was spot on. I just don't think that having a sucessful football team is worth all the criminals we IMPORT to our community. George Dennison, Bobby Houck, Jim Foley, and Jim 0'Day, thank you so much for bettering our community by not only bringing these dirt bags to Missoula, but also sticking up for them when they break the law. I heard Jim O'Day speak last year and he commented that he had a group of student athletes ready to leave Missoula because they though the community judged them. Not a week later we've got four trying their best to get to prison. Maybe next time we let them go... "
J wrote on Oct 1, 2008 2:12 PM:
" The lesson here is keep your mouf shut!!!!!
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Are you kidding me? "
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Are you kidding me? "
Eureka Girl wrote on Oct 1, 2008 2:15 PM:
" Okay first of all Banner Thomas I know Jesse very well and I know he would never call anyone Dawg. He's never said that in my presence and I've known him for five years. Even if he had, is that any excuse to hit him while his back is turned? No I don't think so. As far as the Montelius kid being a good kid, maybe he is, but Jesse is also a good kid and most good kids that I know don't beat someone until they break the victim's jaw especially not when the victim isn't fighting back. But ya he sounds like a really great kid, in fact I'd love to meet him. I would like to meet him and wish him a happy prison visit. I'm sure all of the people from Jesse's hometown and surrounding areas would all join in. "
Jesse G wrote on Oct 1, 2008 2:30 PM:
" I think that the players made a mistake, and that thankfully they didn't end up hurting Johnson worse. I think that this mistake could have been prevented by coach Hauck teaching these players about humility, respect and common sense. It's time to find a new head coach. "
Fishes wrote on Oct 1, 2008 3:22 PM:
" My dad sat my 12 year old down and told him this "keep in mind that everything that you do effects not only you but everyone around you, it's not all about you" This will be a lesson that these boys will learn the hard way and so will their families. "
John wrote on Oct 1, 2008 3:41 PM:
" Hauck is the common denominator. He brings the players into the community, and he should be responsible for them. "
student wrote on Oct 1, 2008 3:42 PM:
" Jesse Is a good kid. Im not sure if Bannner goes to school at this university because he cannot even spell. A couple points: Jesse doesn't talk like "dawg" and he also is very quite and wouldn't insult anybody. Its nice to hear so many people standing up for their friends...Maybe you guys can keep in touch when they are in jail. I hope that the football team kicks these insulting players off. Also, why hasn't the school done anything if this event happenened on the 19th? Disgrace to the University to try to sweep something like this under the rug. "
Gerald wrote on Oct 1, 2008 4:22 PM:
" They should be treated like any other criminals and punished to the full extent of the law. Jail time and fines plus paying for the damaged done--and you can bet there will be a civil damages claim here.
To set the example--if this is on tape and they are guilty they should be kicked out out school immediately.
Nice kids don't do this kick of nonsense. "
To set the example--if this is on tape and they are guilty they should be kicked out out school immediately.
Nice kids don't do this kick of nonsense. "
soapbox man wrote on Oct 1, 2008 4:33 PM:
" It is amazing to me how many people think that somehow the coaching staff is responsible for the action of the "bad apples" on the team. My question is, "What screening does the U of M do on all of its recruits ?" Perhaps they need to dig a bit deeper. The coaches jobs are football. Period. These kids are who they are when they show up on the team. What about the parents of these fools ? If anyone failed they did. "
Danielle wrote on Oct 1, 2008 5:35 PM:
" Many parents fail, but why are so many of their offspring ending up on our highly-revered football team?? And to those who came to Justin Montelius' defense because he was a "nice guy" in high school- lucky for you, he must have never heard you call anyone (gasp) a "biscuit head." Guess your jaw is still intact. The community SHOULD be outraged and judgmental of behavior like his. Yes, we are all human and make mistakes, but forgivable slip-ups are not the same as intentional, repeated kicks to a passive victim's head. There is NO excuse. "
HM wrote on Oct 1, 2008 5:49 PM:
" "Hauck is the common denominator. He brings the players into the community, and he should be responsible for them. "
Did you read the article? For one, the instigator is FROM Missoula. Two, the guy who threw the first punch is the son of a former Griz coach. How in the world is this Hauck bringing these players "into the community"? Hauck has probably known these kids for a few weeks. Blame the kids. They're 18. If you feel they're misguided, then blame the families that had 18 yrs to shape them. But don't blame a coach that hasn't had a chance to make an impact on their lives whatsoever. "
Did you read the article? For one, the instigator is FROM Missoula. Two, the guy who threw the first punch is the son of a former Griz coach. How in the world is this Hauck bringing these players "into the community"? Hauck has probably known these kids for a few weeks. Blame the kids. They're 18. If you feel they're misguided, then blame the families that had 18 yrs to shape them. But don't blame a coach that hasn't had a chance to make an impact on their lives whatsoever. "
Michael Heath Eustance wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:13 PM:
" We have grown up with Justin and the Montelius family through sports, school, and being great friends. Justin has been a great kid his whole life and has helped out the community in many ways, as well as his family. Justin is as far away from a 'thug' as you could possibly get, and by saying that he is a 'disgrace to Missoula' is unbelievable and wrong! You obviously have no no idea who Justin Montelius is. This whole situation has been blown out of proportion by the Missoulian and by the fact that he is a 'Griz Football Player'. If any of you 'Missoula MOM's' have kids of your own, you will know that they make mistakes and no body is perfect. Justin is a great college student and will grow up to be a successful member of society. The Montelius family has put more effort into helping out the Missoula Community than any one we know and are great people and do not deserve this ridicule. We both love Justin and the Montelius family very much and give them all our support! "
adam obrien wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:38 PM:
" Fine job of recruiting. Wow! I think it is fair to say that UM finds way more thugs than MSU. Maybe they should invest more into academics (research, etc.) like MSU has done. "
Tom wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:55 PM:
" Accountability is the key here folks. The individuals here should be held accountable for their actions. The coach should be held accountable for the actions of his team members' public and personal conduct. Good sportmanship should not end on the field. Players represent themselves, their team mates, their coach and their school and city. Coach Hauck should, I believe, coach them in just more than sports and winning. It is a sad day indeed when the "Griz" of Montana post more inmate numbers in their rosters than scores. "
adam wrote on Oct 1, 2008 7:36 PM:
" As an alumni of the U of M and a small business owner in the Missoula community I believe it is well past time for the community to stand for this constant conduct amongst griz football players. At this point in time, a zero tolerance policy must be put in place. If you mess up or are even with anyone who messes up, you are out. Goodbye education. I promise you things will change. "
a mom wrote on Oct 1, 2008 7:51 PM:
" I find it unbelievable that these young college men (?) are acting like criminals. What are they thinking? Have they no decency whatsoever. A sad commentary. I hope they are punished to the full extent of the law. Each one is responsible for his own actions. "
BitterrootBob wrote on Oct 1, 2008 7:55 PM:
" How in the world are some of you claiming these guys are "paying for this now?" Yeah, they were charged with felonies, but they aint seen nothing yet.
Every year, we see a bunch of criminals running all over Missoula. To the naive few who don't want to blame Hauck, do some research and see how many had a history of shenanigans before transferring to Montana. Bobby absolutely knows the character of kid he's bringing in. It's about time people realize the type of character we have coaching the Griz. "
Every year, we see a bunch of criminals running all over Missoula. To the naive few who don't want to blame Hauck, do some research and see how many had a history of shenanigans before transferring to Montana. Bobby absolutely knows the character of kid he's bringing in. It's about time people realize the type of character we have coaching the Griz. "
EurekaUofM wrote on Oct 1, 2008 7:55 PM:
" I graduated from high school with Jesse and have known him well for 5 years. Jesse is a great young man, unlike this Justin kid has proven himself to be. And now Jesse is the one walking through campus with his jaw wired shut. If Justin is this great kid you make him out to be why didn't he stop his fellow friends/teammates from attacking Jesse? You make flat out stupid decisions like this and you should be held accountable for every consequence that follows. They made that stupid choice and now they must face the consequences. I hope it hurts alot and they feel incredibly dumb. And maybe, just maybe...they'll learn something from it. "
Ben wrote on Oct 1, 2008 8:15 PM:
" Everyone makes mistakes. I'm sure these kids never intended for things to turn out like they did. Verbally abusing them won't help the problem. They know what they did was wrong, and they will learn important lessons from this. Show some compassion for everyone that was involved, and don't penalize the rest of the grizzly players because a small few made a mistake "
Brady James wrote on Oct 1, 2008 8:26 PM:
" Send him a positive text if you have his number. He's going to need support "
Tom wrote on Oct 1, 2008 8:41 PM:
" ummm...Ben, I understand what you are saying, but that "small few" you are speaking of is a growing number amongst the ranks of Griz players. When do we as a community stop coddling the "The Great and Powerful Griz" and hold them ALL to a standard? Part of being a "team" is standing or falling as one unit. Coach Hauck included. "
Eureka student wrote on Oct 1, 2008 9:33 PM:
" For all of you that say you know Justin and he is a great guy think about it this way. Lets say Justin or Andrew or Cody was the one that was jumped late that night. Say you went and saw him the next day. He cant talk to you, his face is bruised, his teeth are chipped, he has cuts all over his mouth and bumps on his head. He can barely look at you because his eye is so swollen. He then has to get his jaw wired shut because of what these three guys did to him. How would you feel if he was someone you know well? Would you feel sorry for the guys that attacked him? Would you say this was only a SMALL mistake??? I cant sit here and agree that we should give these men some slack in this community. They made a huge mistake and they should know that this is a big deal, not just an everyday occurance. All of them made a huge mistake that night, and it should not be taken lightly. "
makesyawonder wrote on Oct 1, 2008 9:43 PM:
" What is happening in today's society? How is this acceptable under any terms? Does it really matter how "wonderful" someone is? Why is this even occuring? What is wrong with all of you? When is it acceptable to do this to someone, let alone "watch" it happen? Let alone at the expense of the benefactors? So completely unbelieveable it makes you sick! "
Derik Ryan wrote on Oct 1, 2008 10:34 PM:
" i grew up with justin and i can say first hand that he has always been a good kid who has always tried to avoid trouble. its not fair to say that justin is a disgrace to missoula, everyone makes their fair share of mistakes but how we learn from those mistakes is what defines us in the end. justin, keep your head up boi.. "
Nick Hodge wrote on Oct 1, 2008 10:51 PM:
" Unbelievable. Having grown up in Missoula I support the Griz and still brag about the football team at any chance. This is an embarrassment to the players, the school, and most importantly in my opinion the city and it's people.
Who is to blame? All of the above. Their peers cannot put up with this trash, the coaches definately cannot put up with it, and we as fans need to voice our objections and take the hit by losing some possibly high quality players by waving them goodbye. "
Who is to blame? All of the above. Their peers cannot put up with this trash, the coaches definately cannot put up with it, and we as fans need to voice our objections and take the hit by losing some possibly high quality players by waving them goodbye. "
random wrote on Oct 1, 2008 11:01 PM:
" I'd say the kid with the broken skull from a malicious group attack is the one in need of support....
Strange how people are trying to make the accused look like the victims here "
Strange how people are trying to make the accused look like the victims here "
liz wrote on Oct 2, 2008 12:21 AM:
" i have know justin over half my life and he is a good kid and comes from a great family! justin has always been the one person i could trust no matter what so missoula mom lady u need to wake up and look at your own kids because no one is perfect and we all make mistakes! and i think everone thats talking crap dosnt have a heart.But i will support justin no matter what!! "
SERIOUSLY wrote on Oct 2, 2008 12:27 AM:
" What is wrong with everyone of you to jump to such conclusions on a newspaper article. Are we that naive and judgmental to assume what has happened here and what consequences should be made by a simple news article. To put out such hateful statements for either/or party is a "disgrace to MIssoula." This is not our battle to be fighting. Yes, it is awful what has happened to this gentlemen, but awful times are ahead for the other boys because of the incident and it is not our job to make it worse. I was appalled to read such responses. It is interesting we shame these individuals in their community based on one news article. "
C. McDonald wrote on Oct 2, 2008 7:13 AM:
" Fritz, this is a perfect example of how stupity knows no bounds! It affects people of all class, color and economic background. Lets follow this and see how the University, the State, and the Feds handle this one. "
C. McDonald wrote on Oct 2, 2008 7:29 AM:
" This is a perfect example of how stupity knows no bounds! It affects people of all class, color and economic background. Lets follow this and see how the University, the State, and the Feds handle this one. "
Alison wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:16 AM:
" I'm not sure I understand how beating the shinola out of someone can be a "mistake." A "mistake" is grabbing the salt and not the pepper - you don't "mistakenly" beat someone into unconsciousness. What's interesting is that this is really no different from the two young men who beat the homeless man to death - the difference in peoples' minds is that these were Griz players who did the beating, and therefore, this is somehow excusable. Disturbing. "
Anonymous wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:21 AM:
" I know Justin is a good guy, yes he made a mistake and yes he should be treated by the full extent of the law. But to brand him a thug and a disgrace is far from the truth. I can't believe that people are taking this to such an extent and writing awful things. Mistakes are made, you can't take them back. For all you "Missoula MOMS" to be getting on here and leaving your two cents about how awful these boys are, take a step back and look at your own children. I hope everyone is just as harsh your children when they screw up. I wish the best to the victim, get well soon. "
Mike wrote on Oct 2, 2008 11:22 AM:
" This was not a mistake, it was a crime. The Grizzly players need to have behavior standards on and off the field. They are representatives of our community and our University. "
Mitch wrote on Oct 2, 2008 11:25 AM:
" Hey Coach, grow a set and start doing the right thing. Do it for your team, the community, the kids, and for yourself. You took a kid like J.D. Quinn from OU because he messed up, once!! When you get all of the facts do the right thing. Sometimes the right thing in not always the popular thing. "
B wrote on Oct 2, 2008 12:34 PM:
" I as well went to school with Justin. For all of you people that are thanking Bobby for bringing these three men into our community you might wanna take a u turn. Justin and his family have been apart of this community!!! And for you Mr. Adam Obrien Justin throughout high school had good grades and he has worked very hard for them. I agree Justin made a huge mistake and I was shocked. But I know Justin and I have thought about this situation over and over again and for him to do such a thing there had to be another side to this whole thing. Justin did not just do this because he is a "thug". He is far from it. "
Josh wrote on Oct 2, 2008 12:44 PM:
" For all you people out there defending these three guys you need to open your eyes and relize what they did. If you were walking down a sidewalk and a group of guys came up and beat you until you were unconscious would you think to yourself, "well i know those three guys are nice on the inside. they just made a mistake." i highly doubt it. they knew exactly what they were getting into. they are adults and they deserve a punishment that will open there eyes and make them relive what they did. "
Justin wrote on Oct 2, 2008 1:02 PM:
" I don't think you can blame the head coach for an incident like this. You can't follow them around at 1:30 in the morning. Your job is to coach football, it's the players jobs to take the lessons learned about discipline and apply them to their lives. College football players are MEN.. are not kids. They are in the adult world now and they need to act accordingly. If these actions don't portray what kind of characters they are then for those of you sticking up for the players, why did they do this? If you or I did this we'd be in jail and ridiculed the same. "
scott roper wrote on Oct 2, 2008 2:04 PM:
" How hard is it to not commit felonies? How hard is it not to gang attack someone like a coward? It's about time for a zero tolerance policy. If you're a criminal you cannot play for U of M. If you are charged with any crime you are off the team unitl you can prove innocence. It is time for hauk to go. I expect better in Montana. This isn't Compton. Or is it? "
Scott Roper wrote on Oct 2, 2008 2:18 PM:
" Maybe the Grizz could play the prison gaurds. It would be just like that movie 'the longest yard'! "
Sean wrote on Oct 2, 2008 3:50 PM:
" This is incredible. I am reading all these comments on how great of a kid Justin Montelius is. I want to believe them, but for some reason, the fact that he beat up an innocent man with the help of two of his friends, seems to cloud my judgment. I guess the biggest problem I have with the whole thing, is that the Montelius Family does a lot for Missoula, I've seen it, but how could they do such a horrible job raising their kid? They raised a coward. I can only imagine what von Appen's father did after he heard that his star son, did something so stupid. What do you say to your son after he disgraces your name so badly. These kids should be punished a lot more than they already have been. The role of the government is to treat everybody equally, and the University of Montana should abide by those rules. Kick them out, fine them till they're broke, and show them that regardless of how great their family is they don't get free high-fives. And if you notice that I, along with everybody else who has commented on Montelius, von Appen, and Douglass, referred to them as kids. They will forever be children. "
student wrote on Oct 2, 2008 5:45 PM:
" figures, happens all the time. team is a bunch of criminals. "
randy wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:10 PM:
" We have all made mistakes in our life. these four probably feel worse for reasons of letting there team down there parents down and the fans down and themselves down this will haunt them the rest of there life.I believe in second chances..make up to Jesse do your time and get on with your lives. i hope you all still play for the grizz...i know the father of justin heres when he needs you most.. "
Scott wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:48 PM:
" Justin and I go as far back as 2nd grade, playing little league baseball together. Willa goes to college with me, and she's absolutely right when she says that he's always been a "nice and polite kid". People do stupid things in college. Especially the big schools. But to be so quick to judge him really isn't fair, seeing as how the full story hasn't been released, so please keep that in mind. "
Scott wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:51 PM:
" Also, to remind everyone, NOWHERE in the article does it say that Montelius struck the victim. We don't know the whole story yet. "
Missoula resident wrote on Oct 3, 2008 9:26 AM:
" If the situation was turned and Justin was the victim, I'm sure his family would use their "influence" to make sure the people responsible would pay. What's the difference here? "
Sal Governali wrote on Oct 3, 2008 9:51 AM:
" I agree with Banner Thomas comments..."Keep your moufs shut" and your won't get beat up. Sounds like he had it comming. "
m wrote on Oct 3, 2008 1:09 PM:
" people that know these kids say "it's just a mistake" "we all make mistakes". sure i've made plenty of mistakes but none of them involved having to wire another humans jaw together... "
Jim Green wrote on Oct 3, 2008 2:28 PM:
" What the heck is "student-athlete probation"? You telling me that a football player gets "special" consideration over other students. I love the Griz but this is ridiculous! "
Griz Fan wrote on Oct 3, 2008 2:45 PM:
" What the heck is "student-athlete probation"? You telling me that a football player gets "special" consideration over other students. I love the Griz but this is ridiculous! "
gee quizzle wrote on Oct 4, 2008 11:59 AM:
" I wonder if these students will be suspended for their conduct like the students last year who took over Dennison's office. Does the University punish students that commit violent felonies or only students that engage in non-violent civil disobedience? "
really wrote on Oct 4, 2008 2:31 PM:
" A disgrace to Missoula? Missoula MOM, I'm more than certain that if you have a teenage boy, he's been drunk and rowdy, and tried to fight someone. In fact, I can almost guarantee it. This article blew the situation more than a little out of proportion. Although I agree that, as a part of the Grizzly football team, these boys are supposed to be role models, lest not forget they are 19 year-olds.
Montelius is far from a disgrace to Missoula. He is a great kid, and definitely got himself into a bad situation. Although he didn't even throw a single punch, he didn't handle it the right way. Everyone tends to make mistakes, right? And you can bet that he's paying for his mistake in more ways than you can probably comprehend.
I couldn't agree with Willa Rector more when she says the Montelius family is a great family who've given a lot to the Missoula community. It's a shame this happened, but let's keep in mind that these kids are people too. They know they've messed up -- It's time for YOU to grow up. "
Montelius is far from a disgrace to Missoula. He is a great kid, and definitely got himself into a bad situation. Although he didn't even throw a single punch, he didn't handle it the right way. Everyone tends to make mistakes, right? And you can bet that he's paying for his mistake in more ways than you can probably comprehend.
I couldn't agree with Willa Rector more when she says the Montelius family is a great family who've given a lot to the Missoula community. It's a shame this happened, but let's keep in mind that these kids are people too. They know they've messed up -- It's time for YOU to grow up. "
dgb wrote on Oct 4, 2008 9:00 PM:
" Enough already. As a former Griz athlete and UM grad I am tired of Coach Hauck. He is a the responsible factor in recruiting these three and all other players. HIs contract should be rewritten with a combination of wins, graduation rate, trouble index of coaches and players. His salary and retention should be based on all three factors. Based on the recent past he would receive a failing grade based on the trouble index alone. Current and past students and faculty should speak up with the UM Administration. Prior coaches wouldn't have recruited or allowed this behavior. "
really_2 wrote on Oct 5, 2008 12:55 AM:
" Yeah they are people to and that includes the one with his jaw wired shut. And another thing, how great a guys family is or how much they have done for the community, should have no impact on the perception or punishment of the individual himself; which I believe will be a part of this case. I also believe, considering Douglass's statement was creative and differed from the others, that this had anything to do with namecalling. In fact I HIGHLY doubt Johnson knew any of the boys involved before he met Justin.
I believe in second chances as much as the next guy but only after punishment. I am anxious to see what comes of this case in the next few months. Will it get swept under the rug? "
I believe in second chances as much as the next guy but only after punishment. I am anxious to see what comes of this case in the next few months. Will it get swept under the rug? "
One persons opinion wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:53 AM:
" There were lots of great students and athletes at Big Sky that did not get the recognition that Montelius did and they aren't out creating these kind of situations in the community. He had his way paved at Big Sky, so I'm sure the same will happen in this situation. No worries. "
again wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:26 PM:
" I completely agree that it's very unfortunate and unfair for the poor kid with his jaw wired shut. However, I think it's just as unfortunate and unfair to judge these three based on ONE news article -- we don't know the whole story. The Missoulian doesn't know the whole story. This story was released before a court date was even given -- no one has had the chance to hear both sides yet, except possibly the University of Montana. Whatever the situation, the extremely violent and irresponsible violent behavior is unacceptable. However, it's unfair to attack anyone quite yet.
As far as this being Coach Hauck's fault: these kids do not have a criminal background. It's probably safe to say that (at least in the case of Justin Montelius) they are/were generally good kids.
Regardless, it's not up to you or me to decide the verdict of this situation. It's up to the University and the court.
Praying for everyone involved -- for the quick physical healing of Johnson, and the mental and emotional healing of all four boys and families involved. "
As far as this being Coach Hauck's fault: these kids do not have a criminal background. It's probably safe to say that (at least in the case of Justin Montelius) they are/were generally good kids.
Regardless, it's not up to you or me to decide the verdict of this situation. It's up to the University and the court.
Praying for everyone involved -- for the quick physical healing of Johnson, and the mental and emotional healing of all four boys and families involved. "
Rastus Q. Shaggnasty wrote on Oct 7, 2008 3:38 PM:
" A few Griz redshirts beat the tar out of a kid, then the Griz get the tar beat out of them by Weber. They who smote shall be smoten! "
DoNoWrong wrote on Oct 8, 2008 9:36 AM:
" To start:
MissoulaMom - The real disgrace here is the judgement you are placing on some kids who are not your own. put yourself in their parents shoes. After all: he who is without sin, casts the first stone.
No one has said what these boys did was right. And they will obviously have to deal with the punishment handed down. BUT, thats a 19 yr old boy in college for you. Mistakes happen. Getting involved with the wrong crowd happens. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time happens.
As for the writer of this article. Try commenting on the issue at hand. NOT a shooting last year which didn't involve any of these kids... "
MissoulaMom - The real disgrace here is the judgement you are placing on some kids who are not your own. put yourself in their parents shoes. After all: he who is without sin, casts the first stone.
No one has said what these boys did was right. And they will obviously have to deal with the punishment handed down. BUT, thats a 19 yr old boy in college for you. Mistakes happen. Getting involved with the wrong crowd happens. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time happens.
As for the writer of this article. Try commenting on the issue at hand. NOT a shooting last year which didn't involve any of these kids... "
dfasklfjasljf wrote on Oct 14, 2008 2:59 PM:
" you know this is rediculous they are saying that justin montelius many not have even thrown a punch in this fite but yet most are saying he is the disgrace to missoula and that only him was in the wrong this is stupid that u guys are all focusing on one person and the one person that they cant prove threw a punch... ya justin is a good kid i went to school with him and ya he was in the wrong for not helping out johnson and ya he was in the wrong for even being there but hell if he would have to his friends to stop or tried to help that other kid and those two were the only ones that got the felonys then how many ppl would be after montelius huh?? its hard to go against what your friends do. maybe johnson should have just kept his mouth shut and this wouldnt of all happened it is not just a one way thing here but most of u guys make it out to be face the facts nobody is perfect EVERYONE makes mistakes maybe just not as big of ones as these 4 and i say these four because johnson made the mistake of opening his mouth to the wrong people. Who in their right mind is stupid enough to open their mouth to a damb griz football player for christ sakes? "
Missoula MOM wrote on Oct 1, 2008 12:16 AM: